Jazakallaho khyr al jaza Aurangzeb Khan Saheb for telling qadiyanis that the aqeedah of KHATAM-AN-NABIYYEEN is a divinely decided matter and that it is not open to discussion or disapproval any more.
WOULD YOU MIND TELLING THE DEOBANDIS THE SAME THING IN VIVID TERMS THAT THEIR IMAM AND FOUNDER OF DEOBAND MADRASSAH, QASIM NAN TAWWI, OPENED THIS ONCE CLOSED MATTER CANNOT BE OPENED FOR DISCUSSION ANY MORE. THIS MADE QASIM AND HIS BELIEVERS FALL IN THE SAME ROW AS THAT OF QADIYANIS.
ANYBODY WHO TAKES QASIM NAN TAWWI AS A MUSLIM, IS A KAFIR AS TAKING A KAFIR AS A MUSLIM IS A KUFR IN ITSELF.
--- On Fri, 4/12/13, Aurangzeb Khan <email@example.com> wrote:
I am sending it again, after rewording my poor choice of words. In this, I have shown Ansar Raza and all other Qadiani fanatic their obvious and intentional gross misinterpretation of Quran.
Ansar, refuting is not the word for you. Refutation is for those who have half a leg to stand on. You have no leg to stand on. You simply think that we Muslims are just as blind as you are.
Just I have repeatedly shown you your mutilations of Quran. Many others have done even better job.
First of all, the matter of Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood) is not open for a debate. It is an established and closed matter. Considering it open for debate, or even demanding evidence to disprove it is no different than having doubt about it.
My only purpose for responding to Qadianis is to show them their gross misinterpretations or Quran. Their misinterpretations are clearly intentional and very well crafted to misguide and confuse.
I will first start with Qadiani objection to Quranic verse 33:40.
Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last/final of the prophets (Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen). And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
We can start with the objection raised by Khawar, that it was revealed in 5th year of Hijrah. Perhaps this is his argument that it could not be an integral part of Muslim Aqeedah, or Belief, because it was not part of Muslim Aqeedah till it was revealed in Quran.
I am sure that Muslims can already see logical folly in Mr. Khawar's argument. But let me explain it to Khawar as well as his fellow Qadianis, especially Ansar, again.
Firstly, this verse, 33:40, was revealed when Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) married Um-ul-Mo'mineen Zaiynab after her divorce from Zaid (RA) who was adopted son of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). This was to show that an adopted son is not one's real son. So, is it part of Islamic belief or not, that an adopted son is not like one's own son, even so much that you can marry the divorced wife of your adopted son? And if it is part of Muslim belief, after being revealed in 5th year of Hijrah, then why can Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen (Final of Prophets) not be part of the Belief?
And to say that since Khaatan-un-Nabiyeen (Final of Prophets) was revealed in 5th year of Hijrah was the first time Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood) was ever given is also not true. Sure, this was first and only time it was mentioned in Quran, but we have numerous Ahadeeth that made it clear for Sahaba that Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was the Final Prophet of Allah.
Therefore, this objection is bogus and has been shown so.
You have also seen objections from Ansar Raza in his emails. He quoted Surat-ul-Ambia (21:73), which Qadianis count as 21:74. I will copy for you 21:71-74, and you will yourself see that it was about previous Prophets of Allah, and have nothing to do with the subject of Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood). The verses were in the past tense, as they were revealed.
And We delivered him and Lot to the land which We had blessed for the worlds.
And We gave him Isaac and Jacob in addition, and all [of them] We made righteous.
And We made them leaders guiding by Our command. And We inspired to them the doing of good deeds, establishment of prayer, and giving of zakah; and they were worshippers of Us.
And to Lot We gave judgement and knowledge, and We saved him from the city that was committing wicked deeds. Indeed, they were a people of evil, defiantly disobedient.
Are these people blind, or just mindless fanatic enemies of Allah? انا لله وانا اليه راجعون
It is identical case with Ansar Raza's argument of Surat-ulSajdah (32:24), Qadianis count it as 32:25. If you simply read 32:23-24, you will see that it is about Prophet Musa (pbuh) and Bani Israel. Nothijng whatsoever to do with the subject of Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood).
In my previous exchange of emails, Ansar Raza als raised unrelated issues about Mithaaq (Covenant) that Allah took with Bani Israel regarding the Prophets that HE was to send to them. I showed him his utter confusion, and invited him to become my Muslim brother, before he chose to block me out.
Anyways, is it not obvious that they intentionally cause this confusion to misguide others, although the verses of Quran are very clear?
Now to my proof from Quran, as it was the demand from Qadianis to provide reference from Quran only. Obviously, they hate to have Ahadeeth brought out, knowing that it would be a knockout punch for them.
Evidence 1:- In Quran (33:40), where the phrase "Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen" is used, is self-explanatory. The Arabic phrase has specific meanings, which exactly means "Last (or Final) of the Prophets". Quran is not a Dictionary of Arabic wprds and phrases. In stead, it is revealed in the language of Arabic. So, inherently the phrase does not need to be explained. The meanings are clear and established.
In the verse
Allah has set a seal upon their hearts and upon their hearing, and over their vision is a veil. And for them is a great punishment.
Does Khatam in the above verse not mean that Allah has sealed off, or closed off their hearts? This is exactly what it means in the verse below. That Allah sealed off, or closed off granting Prophethood after Prophet Muhammed (pbuh).
Muhammad is not the father of [any] one of your men, but [he is] the Messenger of Allah and last (or final) of the prophets. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
Evidence 2:- In Quran (2:4), Allah describes Muttaqoon (Muslims. In this verse, the requirements for Muslims are to have Belief in what was being revealed to Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) and what was revealed before him. In addition, to have a complete belief in Hereafter (Aakhirah). There is not a single place in Quran where Muslims are instructed to also follow or believe in those who were to come after Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). Qadianis are challenged here to provide a single verse from Quran substantiating that there will be more prophets after Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). This completely supports Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood).
And who believe in what has been revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you, and are firm in Faith about the Hereafter.
Evidence 3:- In Quran (5:3), Allah declares for the Muslims that He had on that Day PERFECTED their Religion, COMPLETED His Blessing, and chosen Islam as Religion for them. Allah had previously only used similar Words for His Prophets and Messengers in singular terms, meaning that the perfection of Religion and completion of Blessing was only confined to the Prophet He was addressing. But this time, the plural term is for Muslims as a Nation (Ummah). So, when the Blessing had been completed, and and Religion perfected, purpose of Prophethood was completed. very consistent with Khatam-e-Nabuwat (Finality of Prophethood).
............This day those who disbelieve have despaired of [defeating] your religion; so fear them not, but fear Me. This day I have perfectedfor you (plural) your religion and completed My Blessing upon you (plural) and have approved for you (plural) Islam as religion. But whoever is forced by severe hunger with no inclination to sin - then indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
So, again, the matter is absolutely clear. Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was the final Prophet. No more prophets will be made after him. Qadianis also have to see the claims of Mirza Qadiani, before they start messing with Quran. Sometimes he claims to be second coming of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), other times Prophet Eesa (pbuh). He claims that Ahmed and Muhammed mentioned in Quran were references to him. But later he says that he is some Bruzi or Zilli Nabi.
The fact is that he was a Shaiytaan, who came to recruit people for Hell Fire.
Ansar Raza tries to tell us that Mirza was a reformer. As if we Muslims cannot differentiate between a reformer and a crook. Just this link will reveal what reforms Mirza had in mind. For those who can't read Urdu, I can translate Mirza Qadiani's pornographic piece of work for you.
I challenge Ansar Raza to read this link to the ladies in his house, containing Mirza Qadiani's description before Allah. I think Ansar Raza will neither read this liknk to his mother, sister, or daughter, nor will he translate it. I am sure he has lot more shame than Mirza Qadiani did.
I request Qadianis to give up Mirza's cult and come to the Light that Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) brought.
From: Ansar Raza <firstname.lastname@example.org> Sent: Thu, April 11, 2013 5:53:23 PM Subject: Re: QADIANI CULT HAVING EPIlEPTiC FITS ON QURANIC PROOF OF FINALITY OF PROPHETHOOD.
You never produced evidence from Quran regarding finality of Prophethood.
On Thursday, April 11, 2013, Axk1023 wrote:
Khawar - I have given irrefutable proof from Quran regarding Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen, that it means Final of Prophets. No one with a working brain can deny my proof.
Have I not given at least three clear verses from Quran that instruct that there is nothing to come after Prophet Muhammed (pbuh)?
If you do not agree, then instead of Qadiani style screeching and jumping like chimpanzees, why don't you copy / paste the verses that I have given, and tell me how they do not prove Finality of Prophethood?
Let me predict. You are again going to Qadiani style screech and jump like chimpanzees. :)
We all are well aware of your claim â€˜in addition to verse 33:40 and other versesâ€™ in support of phrase Khatamunnabiyyin so let you not kid others in the forum. You have miserably failed to produce another verse which approves your meaning of word Khatam as the Last, a question being asked repeatedly by Mr. Ahmed Ismail.
Your statement <<<This is the established Aqeedah of Muslims. This means that believing in Finality of Prophethood is a requirement of being a Muslim.>>> . Do you know as to when this verse with the phrase â€˜Khatamunnabiyyinâ€™ was revealed??? Wouldnâ€™t you agree that by 5 Hijra, the major portion of the ministry of Syedna Mohammad (SAW) had passed and the belief in Khatamunnabiyyin was never a part of the fundamentals of Islamic faith. There was no one more competent than Syedna Mohammad (SAW) to tell us about the fundamentals of Islam.
Ibn Umar states: â€˜The messenger of Allah (SAW) said that Islam is based on 5 fundamentals. One bearing witness that there is none worthy of worship except Allah and Mohammad (SAW). Two observing Salat, Three, paying Zakat. Four, making the pilgrimage to the House of Allah. Five, fasting in the month of Ramadhanâ€™. ( Tirmidhi)
That was all said by Syedna Mohammad (SAW) regarding 5 fundamentals of Islamic faith. Now people have added a sixth one as Nauzubillah Syedna Mohammad (SAW) was not aware of it.
So Please keep this Aqeedah separate from the true Islam. And Sharm karo !!!!
From: Axk1023 [mailto:email@example.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 7:14 PM To: Khawar Subject: Re: WHERE ARE ALLAH ( HOLY QUR'AN ) SAYS ??? THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD !!! REPLY ANY SINGLE, AT LEAST ONE WORD FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN ?????? WHERE ARE YOUR REPLY TO THE "Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen" (Surah Al Ahzab 33.40) THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD ???
Mr. Khawar -
There are numerous Ahadeeth, in addition to verse 33:40 and other verses, that Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) was the Final Prophet - Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen.
This is the established Aqeedah of Muslims. This means that believing in Finality of Prophethood is a requirement of being a Muslim.
If you are concerned about being a Muslim, then you (and I too) will have to have the same belief as that of the Sahaba, taught in Quran and Sunnah.
What you are referring to was invented by Mirza Qadiani who did so by mutilating the meanings of Quran.
If you are interested in coming to Islam and saving yourself from Hell, I will be glad to help. You can communicate with me in private.
We can look at the Ahadith from another angleâ€¦â€¦â€¦â€¦ By mentioning a figure ( 27, 30 or 70 ), arenâ€™t these Ahadith indicating that there COULD BE true Prophets in the future.
Zara Sochiye !!!!
From: Humayun Rasheed [mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 5:07 PM To: Aurangzeb Khan Subject: Re: WHERE ARE ALLAH ( HOLY QUR'AN ) SAYS ??? THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD !!! REPLY ANY SINGLE, AT LEAST ONE WORD FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN ?????? WHERE ARE YOUR REPLY TO THE "Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen" (Surah Al Ahzab 33.40) THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD ???
Assalam u alaikum
There are two type or narrations reached to us.
1- There will be 70 Kazzab in my Ummat.
2- There will be 30 Kazzab in my Ummat all will claim they are Prophet while ...
So, GA Parveiz and Ghamidi are in those 70 until they can be categorized further. GA Parveiz never claimed but Ghamidi still have chance.
All those who know Arabic knows that the word 70 has two meanings. One is exact 70 and other means "lot of" like 200, 500 like this.
In Sharah (commentary) books you can see that 70 is interpreted by some scholars as "lot of" while 30 is interpreted same as is. In a narration it is said that there will be 27 Kazzab ... So apparently it seems contradiction, while if you can say that the three Kazzab who appeared at last age of Rasoolullah s.a.w. and were killed just after his s.a.w. death were not counted in this second narration by Rasoolullah s.a.w. so said 27, while talking as a whole he s.a.w. said 30.
And don't forget to list Ghamidi, the new Pervaiz wannabe.
From: syed Ahmed <email@example.com> Sent: Mon, April 8, 2013 11:44:27 PM Subject: Re: WHERE ARE ALLAH ( HOLY QUR'AN ) SAYS ??? THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD !!! REPLY ANY SINGLE, AT LEAST ONE WORD FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN ?????? WHERE ARE YOUR REPLY TO THE "Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen" (Surah Al Ahzab 33.40) THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD ????
iF YOU REFER TO GALAXY 10.1, PLEASE INCLUDE PARWAIZ IN THE LIST.
From: Humayun Rasheed <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: WHERE ARE ALLAH ( HOLY QUR'AN ) SAYS ??? THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD !!! REPLY ANY SINGLE, AT LEAST ONE WORD FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN ?????? WHERE ARE YOUR REPLY TO THE "Khaatam-un-Nabiyeen" (Surah Al Ahzab 33.40) THE LAST OR FINALITY PROPHETHOOD ???? To: "Muhammad Latif Chaudhery" <email@example.com> Date: Monday, April 8, 2013, 11:39 PM
Ok, I will count and let you know count of 30 is achieved or still more to appear.
Why you are always evasive. I asked you. Is the danger of counterfeit prophets over or have we have to be vigilant for more to come? What according to your knowledge is the number of Mirza Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani among the 30, you said were foreknew in Hadith?
Muhammad Latif Chaudhery
----- Original Message -----
From: Humayun Rasheed
To: Muhammad Latif Chaudhery
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:42 PM
-- Ansar Raza
Ahmadiyya Muslim Jama`at, Canada
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